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LFA7 – The Mach Loop Spotting Guide

Published by Wout at July 23, 2020 - last modified on February 22, 2021

The Mach Loop (also known as LFA7), is a series of valleys in West-Central Wales which are often used by the Air Force to train on low-level (as low as 76 meters (250 feet)). These locations are strictly private properties and we would like to point out the fact that you are strictly responsible for every actions that you will attempt up there and may occur some issues with locals/police/farmers etc. this is why we are recommending to follow carefully our advices. In the following we will list some websites which we found very helpful, especially if you are at LFA7 for the first time:

  1. Rough flight plans reagrding hours of duty for the next weeks
  2. The most used flight routes and moves
  3. Accurate weather forecasts for this special region

Aircraft most seen in the area includes:

UK Royal Air Force : Airbus A400M / Tornado / Typhoon / Hawk / C130 / Beechcraft / Chinook / Puma / Augusta …

United States Air Force : F15 / MC130 / V22 Osprey

However, since a Typhon was involved in an incident in October 2018 here, LFA7 activity was reduced. On average you will see 2-5 movements a day now during “good weather” (clouds or sun), but sometimes there are even days with 0 or also 20 movements. Depends a lot on your amount of luck! Furthermore this place becomes crowdy during good weather and UK holidays.

Written by Severin Hackenberger and Jeremy Denton in cooperation with Jamie Woodhouse-Wright and Wout Goossens. Visited: 2019

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Radio Frequencies
128.700 AM – Main frequency London Military Central – Will indicated if an aircraft will fly in direction to Wales might potentially come here.
278.000 AM – Second frequency
Nato Low Level – Mostly used by USAF F15 pilots.
Spotting Information
Ladder Not needed at all.
Car/Public Transport Required definitely. There is no public transport to this aera.
Restrooms None, only next to trees or so.
Drinks/Food Absolutely nothing around.
Hotels A few are available in the valley as well as camping sight.
Season The peak season is during Summer once the days are sunny and not too windy. Best days are in the middle of the week as activity was best then so far.
Security There are no problems with the military, police or security services normally. However, you should always be at secured points only and don’t risk steep spots and ways at cliffes and edges. Take care when climbing and rather wear stable hiking shoes! Also if you camp in a tent up the hill, choose a safe spot and secure everything well as it can be windy!
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Spot #1 – Bluebell
WHERE This location is the eastern most here and can be found on a hill’s northern side. Park your car at the lay by of A470 (marked on the map), get to the gate and climb the footpath along a brick wall up the hill for like 90 vertical meters till you reach your favourite spot. However, this hill is step and doesn’t offer a lot of place to stand safely.
WHAT Good light till later noon.
TIME Good light till later noon from sunrise on.
MISC. Please bring everything you need for a long journey.
Be careful when climbing as it is steep and there isn’t a lot of space. Good and stable shoes needed.
FOCAL LENGTH 200-600mm recommended

Unluckily, we can’t provide any example pictures taken from here yet. However, don’t hesitate to send us your ones.

Spot #2 – BwIch
WHERE BwIch is among the most famous positions at Mach Loop as it is located right by the “entrance” of the LFA7 valley. You can find a parking by the roadside of A470 again and then take the paved footpath up the hill. However, after a few steps you have to decide whether you go to lower or upper Bwlch.

  • Option a – lower Bwlch: Turn to the left at the first y-junction and you will get to a nice position for side-side shots after a steep 60 vertical meters
  • Option b – upper Bwlch: Keep to the right at the first y-junction and make the long way all up the steep hill (120 vertical meters) as marked to have an elevated view onto the fly-bys
WHAT Low level action of military jets/helicopters right in front.
TIME Good light till later noon from sunrise on.
MISC. Please bring everything you need for a long journey. Good and stable shoes needed.
FOCAL LENGTH 100-600mm recommended
Hercules = 310mm; Tornado = 220mm

Option a – Lower Bwlch:

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Option b – Upper Bwlch:

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Spot #3 – CAD East
WHERE CAD East can be found east of the narrow valley where the aircraft fly thru. Park your car at the offical parking. On the opposite side you will see a ladder to climb over the fence to get on the path. Take the ~1,5km  and 120 vertcial meters footpath as marked on the map up the hill. A part will be on a asphalted road which is the same way if drive up by car (see next part). Once you reached the small car park just walk along the trees to the plateau which offers a fantastic view. It is exactly on the opposite side of the offical parking.
If you don`t wanna walk you can also drive up to the location on a asphalted road. You can reach this road next to a farm (Stabal Holiday Cottage on google maps). Open the gate (and close it!) and drive up to the top (several gates will follow) until you see a small parking for a handful of car to your left, next to the beginning of a forest.
WHAT Low level action of military jets/helicopters directly in front closely.
TIME Good light till later noon from sunrise on.
MISC. Please bring everything you need for a long journey. Always close the gates! Parking space is limited on the top. Drive up early to find a place!
FOCAL LENGTH 100-600mm recommended
A400 = 160mm;  Tucano = 450mm

Spot itsself looks like THIS

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Spot #4 – CAD West
WHERE This spot can be found west of the narrow valley the aircraft fly thru. Park your car at the offical parking and take the 750m footpath as marked on the map up the hill. This will lead you up like 90 vertical meters easily and smootly to a flatter hill side on the western side where you have a big area to search your favourite position in.
WHAT Low level action of military jets/helicopters directly in front closely.
TIME Early afternoon till sunset.
MISC. Please bring everything you need for a long journey.
FOCAL LENGTH 100-600mm recommended
F15 = 220mm;

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Spot #5 – Corris Corner
WHERE The southernmost spot is located close to the village of Minffordd and only requires a smooth 80 vertical meter climb. Park on a lay by at of “Rhiw Gwgan” and from the parking continue by foot for approximate 100 meters until you see a gate. Open it (and close it!) and walk up the paved footpath up the hill till the postion.
WHAT Low level action of military jets/helicopters.
TIME Good light till later noon from sunrise on.
MISC. Please bring everything you need. Always close the gates!
FOCAL LENGTH Up to 600mm recommended

Unluckily, we can’t provide any example pictures taken from here yet. However, don’t hesitate to send us your ones.

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Wolfi
Wolfi
1 year ago

WoW…besten Dank für die tolle und sehr gute Beschreibung der einzelnen Fotostandpunkte.
Das macht doch Lust für 2022 dort eine Woche Flugzeugfotografie mal zu planen…

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Stephen Nolan
Stephen Nolan
1 year ago

Hi is the a printed guide AV available for the Mac Loop please.

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Julian
Julian
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1 year ago

Yes, see point 6 at https://www.spotterguide.net/faq1/

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Joseph Lewis
Joseph Lewis
1 year ago

LFA7 isn’t one place, it’s the whole of Wales

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Gary Shropshire
Gary Shropshire
1 year ago

Thanks for information enjoyed flyover when I had caravan at Borth but love to see them at Mac loop, hope all are well hope to get back to wales soon .

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Juan Manuel Gibaja
Juan Manuel Gibaja
2 years ago

Stunning one! Congrats y’all

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  • Okinawa Naha OKA/ROAH
  • Osaka Itami ITM/RJOO
  • Osaka Kansai Intl. Airport KIX/RJBB
  • Phuket HKT/VTSP
  • Radin Inten II TKG/WILL
  • Samarinda Aji Pangeran AAP/WALS
  • Sanya Phoenix SYX/ZJSY
  • Seoul Incheon Airport ICN/RKSI
  • Seoul Gimpo Airport GMP/RKSS
  • Shanghai Hongqiao SHA/ZSSS
  • Shanghai Pudong PVG/ZSPD
  • Siem Reap REP/VDSR
  • Singapore Changi SIN/WSSS
  • Singapore Seletar XSP/WSSL
  • Surat STV/VASU
  • Subang Intl. Airport SZB/WMSA
  • Taipei Taoyuan TPE/RCTP
  • Tbilisi TBS/UGTB
  • Taiyuan Wusu TYN/ZBYN
  • Tianjin Binhai TSN/ZBTJ
  • Trivandrum TRV/VOTV
  • Tokyo Haneda HND/RJTT
  • Tokyo Narita NRT/RJAA
  • Velena Male MLE/VRMM
  • Wuhan Tianhe WUH/ZHHH
  • Xiamen Gaoqi XMN/ZSAM
  • Yogyakarta Adisucipto YOG/WAHH
North American Airports
  • Albany ALB/KALB
  • Anchorage Ted Stevens ANC/PANC
  • Aspen Pitkin County ASE/KASE
  • Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson ATL/KATL
  • Austin Bergstrom AUS/KAUS
  • Baltimore BWI/KBWI
  • Barksdale AFB BAD/KBAD
  • Birmingham Shuttlesworth BHM/KBHM
  • Boston Logan BOS/KBOS
  • Brunswick Golden Isles BQK/KBQK
  • Buffalo Niagara BUF/KBUF
  • Calgary YYC/CYYC
  • Cancun CUN/MMUN
  • Charleston CHS/KCHS
  • Charlotte Douglas CLT/KCLT
  • Chicago Midway MDW/KMDW
  • Chicago O´Hare ORD/KORD
  • Cincinnati Northern Kentucky CVG/KCVG
  • Cleveland Hopkins CLE/KCLE
  • College Station Easterwood CLL/KCLL
  • Columbia CAE/KCAE
  • Columbus, Ohio CMH/KCMH
  • Concord Buchanan CCR/KCCR
  • Culiacán CUL/MMCL
  • Dallas Addison ADS/KADS
  • Dallas Fort Worth DFW/KDFW
  • Dallas Love Field DAL/KDAL
  • Davis Monthan Air Base DMA/KDMA
  • Daytona Beach DAB/KDAB
  • DeKalb-Peachtree PDK/KPDK
  • Denver DEN/KDEN
  • Des Moines DSM/KSDM
  • Detroit Metropolitan DTW/KDTW
  • Detroit Willow Run YIP/KYIP
  • Dyess AFB DYS/KDYS
  • Eagle County EGE/KEGE
  • Edmonton YEG/CYEG
  • Fort Lauderdale FLL/KFLL
  • Fort Worth Alliance AFW/KAFW
  • Fort Worth NAS JRB NFW/KNFW
  • Gander YQX/CYQX
  • Grand Canyon National Park GCN/KGCN
  • Grand Junction GJT/KGJT
  • Hamilton YHM/CYHM
  • Hartford/Bradley BDL/KBDL
  • Honolulu HNL/PHNL
  • Houston George Bush IAH/KIAH
  • Houston Hobby HOU/KHOU
  • Indianapolis IND/KIND
  • John Wayne Orange County SNA/KSNA
  • Kansas City MCI/KMCI
  • Key West EYW/KEYW
  • King County/Boeing Field BFI/KBFI
  • Kingman IGM/KIGM
  • Knoxville TYS/KTYS
  • Kona Keahole KOA/PHKO
  • Lake Hood Seaplane Base LHD/PALH
  • Laredo LRD/KLRD
  • Las Vegas McCarran LAS/KLAS
  • Lexington LEX/KLEX
  • Lihue LIH/PHLI
  • Long Beach LGB/KLGB
  • Los Angeles LAX/KLAX
  • Louisville SDF/KSDF
  • Luke AFB LUF/KLUF
  • Manchester Boston MHT/KMHT
  • Marana Pinal Airpark MZJ/KMZJ
  • March Air Reserve Base RIV/KRIV
  • Memphis MEM/KMEM
  • Mexico City MEX/AICM
  • Miami MIA/KMIA
  • Milwaukee Mitchell MKE/KMKE
  • Minneapolis-Saint Paul MSP/KMSP
  • Montréal Mirabel YMX/CYMX
  • Montréal–Pierre Elliott Trud. YUL/CYUL
  • Naval Air Facility El Centro NJK/KNJK
  • Nellis Air Base LSV/KLSV
  • Newark Liberty EWR/KEWR
  • New Orleans MSY/KMSY
  • New York West 30th St Heliport JRA/KJRA
  • New York John F. Kennedy JFK/KFJK
  • New York La Guardia LGA/KLGA
  • Norfolk ORF/KORF
  • Oakland OAK/KOAK
  • Omaha Eppley OMA/KOMA
  • Ontario ONT/KONT
  • Orlando MCO/KMCO
  • Ottawa YOW/CYOW
  • Paine Field PAE/KPAE
  • Palm Beach PBI/KPBI
  • Pensacola PNS/KPNS
  • Philadelphia PHL/KPHL
  • Phoenix Goodyear GYR/KGYR
  • Phoenix Mesa AZA/KIWA
  • Phoenix Sky Harbour PHX/KPHX
  • Piedmont Triad GSO/KGSO
  • Pittsburgh PIT/KPIT
  • Portland,OR PDX/KPDX
  • Provo Municipal PVU/KPVU
  • Providence T.F. Green PVD/KPVD
  • Rainbow Canyon R-2508
  • Raleigh-Durham RDU/KRDU
  • Renton RNT/KRNT
  • Roanoke-Blacksburg ROA/KROA
  • Sacramento SMF/KSMF
  • Sacramento McClellan MCC/KMCC
  • Salt Lake City SLC/KSLC
  • San Antonio SAT/KSAT
  • San Bernadino SBD/KSBD
  • San Diego SAN/KSAN
  • San Francisco SFO/KSFO
  • San José Juan Santamaria SJO/MROC
  • San José Norman Y. Mineta SJC/KSJC
  • Santa Barbara SBA/KSBA
  • Sarasota Bradenton SRQ/KSRQ
  • Savannah Hilton Head SAV/KSAV
  • Scottsdale SCF/KSDL
  • Seattle Tacoma SEA/KSEA
  • Southwest Florida Fort Myers RSW/KRSW
  • Spokane GEG/KGEG
  • St. Pete Clearwater PIE/KPIE
  • Syracuse Hancock SYR/KSYR
  • Tampa TPA/KTPA
  • Toluca TLC/MMTO
  • Toronto Island YTZ/CYTZ
  • Toronto Pearson YYZ/CYYZ
  • Tucson TUS/KTUS
  • Van Nuys VNY/KVNY
  • Vancouver/Seaplane YVR/CYVR/CAM9
  • Victoria YYJ/CYYJ
  • Victoria Inner Harbour YWH/CYWH
  • Victorville Southern California VCV/KVCV
  • Washington Dulles IAD/KIAD
  • Washington R. Reagan DCA/KDCA
  • Whitehorse Erik Nielsen YXY/CYXY
  • Yellowknife YZF/CYZF/CEN9
South American Airports
  • Asunción ASU/SGAS
  • Belo Horizonte-Confins CNF/SBCF
  • Boa Vista BVB/SBBV
  • Bogota El Dorado BOG/SKBO
  • Brasília BSB/SBBR
  • Buenos Aires Aeroparque AEP/SABE
  • Buenos Aires Ministro Pistarini EZE/SAEZ
  • Cascavel CAC/SBCA
  • Cuiabá Marechal Rondon CGB/SBCY
  • Curitiba Alfonso Pena CWB/SBCT
  • Curitiba Bacacheri BFH/SBBI
  • Cusco CUZ/SPZO
  • Florianópolis FLN/SBFL
  • Fortaleza Pinto Martins FOR/SBFZ
  • Foz do Iguaçu IGU/SBFI
  • Jundiaí GDV/SBJD
  • Lima LIM/SPJC
  • Londrina LDB/SBLO
  • Macaé MAE/SBME
  • Manaus BAO/SBEG
  • Maringá MGF/SBMG
  • Medellin Cordova MDE/SKRG
  • Montevideo MVD/SUMU
  • Navegantes NVT/SBNF
  • Porto Alegre POA/SBPA
  • Porto Seguro BPS/SBPS
  • Quito Mariscal Sucre UIO/SEQM
  • Rio, Galeão GIG/SBGL
  • Rio, Santos Dumont SDU/SBRJ
  • Salvador SSA/SBSV
  • Santiago de Chile SCL/SCEL
  • Sao Paulo Campo de Marte RTE/SBMT
  • Sao Paulo Congonhas CGH/SBSP
  • Sao Paulo Guarulhos GRU/SBGR
  • Teresina THE/SBTE
  • Viracopos Campinas VCP/SBKP
Central American Airports
  • Guatemala City GUA/MGGT
  • San Jose SJO/MROC
Caribbean Airports
  • Antigua V.C. Bird ANU/TAPA
  • Aruba Queen Beatrix AUA/TNCA
  • Barbados Grantley Adams BGL/TBPB
  • Castries St. Lucia SLU/TLPC
  • Curaçao Hato CUR/TNCC
  • Pointe-à-Pitre PTP/TFFR
  • Port of Spain Piarco POS/TTPP
  • Saint Barthélemy SBH/TFFJ
  • San Juan Luis Muñoz SJU/TJSJ
  • Saint Thomas Cyril E. King STT/TIST
  • Sint Maarten SXM/TNCM
Oceanian Airports
  • Auckland Intl. Airport AKL/NZAA
  • Adelaide ADL/YPAD
  • Brisbane BNE/YBBN
  • Canberra CBR/YSCB
  • Carnarvon CVQ/YCAR
  • Christchurch Intl. Airport CHC/NZCH
  • Darwin DRW/YPDN
  • Gold Coast OOL/YBCG
  • Jandakot JAD/YPIT
  • Melbourne Airpt. MEL/YMML
  • Napier Hawke's Bay NPE/NZNR
  • Nelson NSN/NZNS
  • Perth PER/YPPH
  • Queenstown ZQN/NZQN
  • Rarotonga Intl. Airport RAR/NCRG
  • Sydney Kingsford Smith SYD/YSSY
  • Wellington WLG/NZWN
African Airports
  • Cape Town CPT/FACT
  • Dakar DSS/GOBD
  • Durban DUR/FALE
  • Johannesburg O.R. Tambo JNB/FAOR
  • Lanseria HLA/FALA
  • Mauritius MRU/FIMP
  • Port Elizabeth PLZ/FAPE
  • Parslin PRI/FSPP
  • Pretoria Waterkloof WKF/FAWK
  • Saint Denis RUN/FMEE
  • Saint-Pierre Pierrefonds ZSE/FMEP
  • Seychelles SEY/FSIA
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